About Our Stupid Podcast
As of January 16, 2016 (originally). Archived 2026.
Thank you for buying our about page! As promised, here is some valuable content about our podcast. By the way, Make Money Online is a podcast. The website you downloaded this from is a podcast site. You are reading the podcast’s about page, and that podcast is called Make Money Online.
What is Make Money Online?
We already just told you that, but here’s some more information, you vulture.
Make Money Online is a fortnightly podcast about running a solo independent business, which is extremely hard. The two of us chat about business, life, and anything that strikes us at the time. We try to keep these episodes short, because we’re busy and so are you. And they should be actionable in some capacity, so you can improve your business in a significant, material way.
Why even do this?
There are many podcasts out there, so why make another? And why should you listen to it?
- Because we won’t waste your time. You’re busy and important and smell very nice today, kind of like sandalwood and lavender, so our episodes top out at 25 minutes. No talking heads bloviating like it’s bar talk. Nobody pumping themselves up about how great they are. Just real talk about running small, independent online businesses.
- To be as evergreen as possible. A Make Money Online episode recorded in 2016 should be relevant in 2025. So we’re trying to make sure that what we say is important — and sufficiently general to enter the pantheon of reasonable, non-blowhard business advice.
- To recognize the absurdity of what we do. We take our jobs very seriously, but we also recognize that we’re typing words into a computer and making money come out. And that is really weird! So we try to explore that in a way that’s reverential to the work — while still recognizing that we’re hiding behind our screens 99% of the time.
Who runs Make Money Online?
Great question. Your first great question of the day. Make Money Online is run by Nick Disabato and Kai Davis:
Kai Davis is an outreach consultant in Oregon. He’s worked independently as a consultant since 2012. He’s been frequently interviewed for his perspective on growing a stable consulting business, and he speaks at conferences about marketing and consulting.
Nick Disabato runs Draft, a small interaction design consultancy. He wrote Cadence & Slang, which is widely considered one of the best books in his field. He yells on the internet for a living, and his mom calls him “nickd.”
You can find Kai at kaidavis.com, and nickd at nickd.org & draft.nu.
What’s in it for me?
Neither of us works without a planned outcome of some kind, and we want to leave you better than you were when you started listening to us.
Ultimately, we want to make you feel better about running an independent business. There are tactics all over the internet, but we’ve found that 95% of the struggle is psychological — executing is easy once you’ve sold the work to yourself.
So we’re going to list some tactics from time to time, but we also know you’re going to throw every shitty, self-undermining excuse in the book at them. We know you aren’t going to do anything to improve your lot in life if you don’t well and truly understand the struggle. And hopefully we can convey that in some capacity.
Got any other credits?
Yes. We do.
- The “Make Money Online” words were spoken by Jonathan Stark.
- The little plonk before “Make Money Online” is one of the sounds from a Lifehacker post. Because you are hacking your life with business.
What other stuff do you do?
- Kai & nickd each have mailing lists. Here’s Kai’s. Here’s nickd’s. You should sign up for each if you care about us at all in any way.
- nickd wrote a book called Cadence & Slang about interaction design.
- Kai wrote The Traffic Manual about doing outreach.
- nickd & Kai co-wrote a book with 11 other people, called the Independent Consulting Manual, about running a stable and durable solo business.
This archive preserved 2026. The show ran 118 episodes from January 2016 through April 2018. Audio hosted on Transistor.fm.